Former Gauteng premier Mbhazima Shilowa says he has no interest in returning to politics.
Shilowa says he is fully retired and seen by his family as a "man of leisure".
One does not have to contribute in politics by being in party politics.— Mbhazima Shilowa, former Gauteng premier
Born in Northern Cape's Olifantshoek, the family man talks about his upbringing during apartheid's forced removals.
A lover of wine, food, jazz and self-professed Epicurean, Shilowa opens up about his favourite musicians, his passions, aspirations and new business venture.
He advises that he will continue giving back to society, but also wishes to travel the world and explore some of his other interests.
Take a listen to the intriguing conversation: