In this installment of 'Keeping up with the Guptas', Sikhonathi Mantshantsha, Deputy Editor at Financial Mail, and Times journalist Kyle Cowan, join Eusebius McKaiser to join the dots of the Gupta influence as heard in the parliamentary inquiry into Eskom.
In the past few weeks, Parliament's Eskom inquiry has seen some former and suspended employees at the state-owned power utility testify about the allegations of state capture.
One such person who has given their testimony at the inquiry is Eskom's suspended legal head, Suzanne Daniels.
During her testimony, Daniels says she recalls meeting with Ajay Gupta on 29 July 2017. She told Parliament that she was contacted by Gupta business associate, Salim Essa, who asked her to meet over coffee and adds that their meeting took place at Melrose Arch in Johannesburg.
Cowan tells McKasier that Daniels is a highly qualified legal brain who has been with the power utility at least since 2003 working through different divisions.
Crooks out there need to one learn thing, you cannot piss off your lawyer when you are a crook. The people at Eskom are now finding out the hard way.— Sikhonathi Mantshantsha, Deputy Editor at Financial Mail
Suzanne Daniels knows where the bodies are buried as head of legal and she had that dual role of company secretary which gives her first hand experience of what is happening at the board. She knows exactly what is being and keeping those records.— Sikhonathi Mantshantsha, Deputy Editor at Financial Mail
Cowan says Daniels' testimony in Parliament suggests that they wanted former Eskom CEO, Brian Molefe's disciplinary proceedings delayed until after December 2017.
Deputy Public Enterprises Minister Ben Martins has come forward and denied meeting Daniels, Ajay Gupta and Duduzane Zuma in Melrose Arch in 2017.
I think Martins met the Gupta's possibly as early as 2011/2012. I think he fought bravely for some time and eventually capitulated.— Kyle Cowan, journalist at the Times
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