[LISTEN] ANC's Paul Mashatile - 'If Zuma does not resign he will be recalled'

This leaked audio clip by ANC Treasurer General Paul Mashatile outlined an exit plan for Zuma that was very different from what Cyril Ramaphosa then began implementing.

Mashatile was speaking at the 2018 Mining Indaba on Wednesday in Cape Town.

There is a new leadership.

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

He said the ANC's new leadership is concerned about good governance, knowing that many are worried about state capture, corruption, and mismanagement.

Mashatile insisted that this will be rooted out and there will be good governance.

There's a new president of the ANC, so the buck stops at Luthuli House.

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

Changes are being made and will continue to be made, he insists, at all levels.

He talked about the phrase many her terming 'managing the transition.'

And very interestingly, on Sunday evening, President Zuma says to us, 'What do you guys mean by managing the transition?' He said this is a strange word that you guys have just coined. And we said no, it is the handing over of power from you to Cyril.

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

Mashatile says the ANC leadership explained very clearly to Zuma on Sunday evening that they do not want to have two centers of power, and Ramaphosa needs to take over.

President Zuma said to us I am not going anywhere, I am not convinced by you guys, so I am not going to resign.

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

Mashatile then addressed the issue of resignation or recall.

Where we are now is we have agreed that if the President does not want to resign voluntarily, we will recall him like we did with Mbeki. And that we will do tomorrow night (Thursday)

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

he says the ANC has a party to run heading for elections and need to ensure there is no involvement in motions of no confidence and impeachments.

Zuma is prepared to go through a motion of no confidence - we are not.

Paul Mashatile, ANC Treasurer General

He said the decision to recall Zuma if he does not resign is the reason for the postponement of the State of the Nation Address (Sona). Bu Thursday we will have a decision, said Mashatile.

Listen to the explosive audio below - the speech begins at the marked tab:


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