Corruption has a debilitating effect on the lives of billions of people worldwide, and millions of people in South Africa. It is often the most vulnerable members of society that are the hardest hit.
Eusebius McKaiser was joined by Professor Evangelos Mantzaris as a senior researcher at the Anti-Corruption Centre for Education and Research and Zola Valashiya a campaigns manager at Corruption Watch.
Mantzaris says the motive behind corruption is obvious, but one also needs to then look at the opportunity.
The sociology, the anthropology and the psychology try to explain the roots of the differences between 'need' and 'greed'.— Professor Evangelos Mantzaris, senior researcher at the Anti-Corruption Centre for Education and Research
He says that is why President Ramaphosa spent over twenty minutes talking about 'lifestyle audits'
Valashiya paints a bleak picture saying he believes human beings are inherently greedy.
And we construct institutions like government, law and the criminal justice system, to restrict man's wickedness, so we can live and survive in society.— Zola Valashiya, Corruption Watch campaigns manager
Listen to the fascinating discussion about the roots of corruption below: