'Ma Winnie was woke before we invented the term woke'

Karima Brown and Eusebius McKaiser hosted a special edition of The Karima Brown Show to pay tribute to Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, who died on Easter Monday at the Millpark Hospital after a long illness. The struggle stalwart was 81-years-old.

Political analyst Vukane Mde joined the pair to talk about the life of Mama Winnie.

Mde quotes one of her most famous lines - which talks about how she believed she was produced by the society and times in which she found herself. She spoke of how the apartheid regime put her such brutality and she no longer feared anything.

She said something like this. I no longer have fear...I am not only the product of the struggles of my people, I am also a product of my enemies.

Vukane Mde, political analyst

She walked her own path, elaborates Mde.

Deep down she really did not care how society constructed her.

Vukane Mde, political analyst

All of our judgments - whether they be moral or ethical or political - did not move her. She moved events, she moved the world around her. She rearranged the furniture around her world, not the other way around.

Vukane Mde, political analyst

She had an iron will, he says.

Mde and Eusebius described Mama Winnie's raw rage and lack of concern for what others thought of her actions, as being 'woke' ahead of her time.

Rage is now all the rage, but actually, she (Winnie) was the gold standard of rage as moral fortitude.

Eusebius McKaiser, 702/CapeTalk anchor

She was woke before we invented the word woke.

Vukane Mde, political analyst

Social and economic commentator Lebohang Pheko joined the conversation.

One of the most interesting things about Winnie Madikizela-Mandela are her complexities...and the best legacies are complex....none of us are black or white characters. We dwell in shades of grey.

Lebohang Pheko, Social and economic commentator

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