In his opener, Eusebius McKaiser poses a question about the role of black people in challenging sexism and racism in business.
The one question that we as a country do not focus on enough, is how often black people can be in senior positions and either be indifferent or also be sometimes part of the problem when it comes to perpetuating the experiences of black people in institutionally racist places and also women.— Eusebius McKaiser, 702/CapeTalk anchor
He elaborates on this.
You will obviously remember the conversation we had with the deputy CEO of Grant Thornton, the fact that she is a woman, did not stop her from being an allay in covering up horrific sexual harassment at Grant Thornton.— Eusebius McKaiser, 702/CapeTalk anchor
In the case of allegations of racism and sexism against Mark Lamberti, he doesn't think that we focused enough on the role of the Imperial Group chair, Thulani Gcabashe and it is important that we do so.
Often you have a very high profile person on the board or in a company and you think to yourself, OK, at least I must be covered because this person surely gets what it is like for me to be a victim of bullying when it comes to bullying motivated by racism or sexism if it's a woman in high position. But that is not always the case.— Eusebius McKaiser, 702/CapeTalk anchor
The collusion of black men - black people in general - in corporate culture in covering up racism, sexism, misogynoir, victimisation, we focus on that, and it is a necessary awkward conversation and we need to self-examine. Because although we don't have enough women and black people in key positions in corporate South Africa, there are some - and quite frankly many of them, many of us, often fall short once we are in positions of leadership.— Eusebius McKaiser, 702/CapeTalk anchor
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