Have racialised identities become too noxious to do progressive work for us?
Racial issues have been a thorn in the side of South Africa's democracy.
Some have used race for political and financial gain throughout the years.
Eusebius McKaiser engaged political analyst and broadcaster Karima Brown, former Cosatu Western Cape secretary Tony Ehrenreich, and former Constitutional Court judge, Zak Yacoob, about the complexity of race in contemporary South Africa.
McKaiser started by asking the guests how do they identify themselves.
I'm coloured and I'm okay with it. What I'm not okay with is when I'm told I am not African. I water all my roots.— Karima Brown, political analyst and 'The Karima Brow' show host
I am a black South African and part of the oppressed black majority and have my roots in the Khoi and the San and the many indigenous grouping that were around Africa at that time.— Tony Ehrenreich, former Cosatu Western Cape secretary
I am an Africa person, actually, I am a black South African of Indian origin.— Judge Zak Yacoob, former Constitutional Court judge
McKaiser probed the guests how other races relate to them when they are gatherings despite how they personally identify.
I find that there are two kinds of black African South Africans in this country. The one kind with whom I feel completely at home with I would see myself as African and the fact that I am of Indian origins is irrelevant except, of course, they would tease me about the food we eat. Then there is another group with whom you get a different body language. They see you as different although they are saying the right things, in their body, you get this sense of racism.— Judge Zak Yacoob, former Constitutional Court judge
I for a long time was in an elected position in an African position that is made up of mainly African members but I never ever felt like an outsider. There were no issues of racism.— Tony Ehrenreich, former Cosatu Western Cape secretary
That listener is wrong to paint all the coloured people with the same brush as apartheid collaborators but I felt betrayed when majority of coloured people voted the Nats in 1994. To me, that was plain anti black.— Jazz (@ViweMrev) September 26, 2018
@Eusebius Your caller who says Indians participated in the tricameral parliament might as well say the same of blacks who propped up Bantustan leaders— Mbhazima Shilowa (@Enghumbhini) September 26, 2018
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