[LISTEN] 'Racial isolation still continues in SA, though in informal ways'

Father Bryan Massingale is a professor of theological and social ethics at Fordham University in New York.

He is the author of Racial Justice and the Catholic Church.

Massingale was in South Africa presenting the Winter Living Theology lecture series on 'Racism and the Demands of Discipleship' this year.

He sat down with 702's Joanne Joseph to talk about the racial dynamics and similarities between South Africa and the US.

Both countries have had histories of legalised racial inequality and both have overcome that legal form of discrimination but we find that we are still grappling with the informal legacies of the past.

Bryan Massingale, professor of theological and social ethics at Fordham University

One of my lasting impressions of South Africa is how racially isolated the population still is, even post 1994. I notice that neighborhoods are still commonly described in racial terms. Racial isolation still continues though in largely informal ways and no longer by law.

Bryan Massingale, professor of theological and social ethics at Fordham University

Massingale says while the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was important in South Africa's transition, it was a limited process.

There are other forms of trauma that happened during that era that need other forms of expression. Here I think, something where the churches have a real opportunity to create those kind of safe spaces, where those personal stories part of the national narrative can be told. One of the essential things I would advise South Africans to do, is to really confront its past and make sure that story is told.

Bryan Massingale, professor of theological and social ethics at Fordham University

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