State Capture Inquiry: Ramatlhodi testifies that Zuma seemed indebted to Guptas

EWN reporter Clement Manyatehela says former public service and administration minister as well as former minerals and energy minister, Ngoako Ramatlhodi, is the first witness at the Zondo commission and 'is calling a spade a spade.'

Ramathlodu told the commission how the Guptas used Duduzane Zuma, son of former president Jacob Zuma, to arrange a meeting for them.

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He says on several occasions he told them he was not interested and to some, he even told Jacob Zuma that these people have been trying to meet with me and I don't know what they want from me.

Clement Manyathela, EWN reporter

He says the former president just said "kuzolunga mfana githi" (it will be OK my brother).

Clement Manyathela, EWN reporter

Ramatlhodi said that was the way Zuma responded to his concerns about the Guptas.

He testified that this was the reason he believes he was fired as mining minister - that the Guptas were frustrated with him around Glenco, and the mining licence that they needed because he wasn't playing ball.

Ramathlodi also told the commission about how the Guptas would summon the ministers to their private home in Cape Town or Saxonwold because they had a strong hold on former president Jacob Zuma.

He says NEC members constantly told Zuma that his relationship with the Guptas was problematic, dangerous and toxic - because while people voted for the ANC Zuma had given up executive authority to the Guptas.

Clement Manyathela, EWN reporter

He says everytime they would tell the president this, he would respond and say that "well this family has taken care of my family". They got a sense that he felt indebted to them.

Clement Manyathela, EWN reporter

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