Watch Eusebius McKaiser engage Premier David Makhura on whether the African National Congress (ANC) deserves to hold on to Gauteng?
In their discussion, McKaiser asked the premier whether families of the Life Esidimeni tragedy should vote for the ANC?
Family members of the Life Esidimeni tragedy are citizens of our country. They will evaluate the ANC on its track record including how the party-led government in Gauteng dealt with the tragedy.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
Of course, there is no doubt that this tragedy weighs heavily on the ANC-led government in Gauteng, but I would like people to examine how we dealt with it once the reports came to the fore. We went at lengths to make sure that nothing is hidden and embarked on a process that brought the full scale of that tragedy.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
The premier says he has interacted with the Life Esidimeni families and he is confident that they will assess the ANC-led government.
Makhura is adamant that if people look at how far the country has come in the past 25 years, and assess the ANC's performance in terms of the economy, education, healthcare and essential services that the ANC inherited from the apartheid government, the party has made great strides nationally and provincially.
We have also produced a decent account of what we have done in the past 25 years and what those years have meant. So, if you ask whether the ANC has done a lot to change the lives of our people to create a better experience for all, a lot has been done. But a lot more still needs to be done.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
Our manifesto says we could have done more, this is on record. We could have done more and in some instances, there were fatal mistakes that were committed.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
When probed about how the ruling party has serviced the people of Alexandra and whether he could live in the township, Makhura says the townships in Gauteng are not at the same level as the suburbs in the province.
Alexandra requires a lot of transformation and the reason I don't live in Alexandra - I lived there for 10 years - is because it requires a lot of transformation.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
There are many townships in Gauteng that we have made a significant transformation in and people are proud of living in those townships.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
The conversation with the premier moved to e-tolls, with callers asking him what will happen to them.
When the first announcement was made in 2010 that there is going to be the tolling of roads in Gauteng, I was the provincial secretary of the ANC and the first response was that to toll in a manner that they want to toll will be disastrous and the ANC opposes this.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
What I am happy about is that there is a consensus now especially with the head of state that the e-tolling of Gauteng roads is not viable.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
Makhura adds that it has taken the Gauteng provincial government a long time to convince those who have the ultimate authority, which is the national government.
McKaiser further probed as to whether deserved votes in the coming elections.
Should the ANC government be rewarded for missed opportunities for 25 years and the answer cannot be yes?— Eusebius McKaiser, Presenter
We deserve to be given an opportunity to complete the work that we started.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
Makhura says voters do not have to worry about the secretary-general Ace Magashule being in government.
ANC members decide who will lead them, so they don't have to worry about those who lead them. Magashule cannot end up in Parliament because the constitution of the ANC says he must serve at Luthuli House on a full-time basis.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
The ANC is on a course to self-correct, and if one looks at the manifesto, it admits that things need to be changed, Makhura concludes.
Of course, it is not easy; anyone who thinks that you can get rid of factionalism entirely from political parties is naive.— David Makhura, Premier - Gauteng
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