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Pauli van Wyk says Malema lied when he said no VBS money flowed into EFF coffers

28 May 2019 12:08 PM
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The Daily Maverick journalist speaks to Eusebius McKaiser about her latest article on the party and the collapsed bank.

Three weeks before South Africa’s most contested democratic election, Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema told Eusebius Mckaiser that no VBS money flowed into the party's coffers.

Daily Maverick journalist Pauli van Wyk says Malema lied.

Read: Pauli van Wyk explains how the Shivambu brothers benefited from VBS

In a recent article titled ‘Cruising nicely’ on VBS: EFF’s Parties, Lies and Looted Money, Van Wyk details how the EFF benefited from VBS Mutual bank.

She joins McKaiser to discuss her investigation.

The process of this investigation was to realise that something is off and something is not as it seems, then you go and try test the facts. It is always good to try and prove people right.

Pauli van Wyk, Investigative journalist - Daily Maverick

If we listen to Mr Malema and he says there is no money going into the EFF's account that links to VBS then you go fact-check it. You say ok, Mr Malema must be right, let's see how we can prove him right. If you don't, you look at it further and see how far I can test their evidence.

Pauli van Wyk, Investigative journalist - Daily Maverick

Van Wyk says in this particular case she received evidence from different sources which lead to the investigative work.

The information that you get forms pieces as if you are building a puzzle and if you get an idea of it, you try and test it from the other way around. You try and prove that line backwards to ensure that you are entirely right because these things must stand up in court.

Pauli van Wyk, Investigative journalist - Daily Maverick

She says she has done extensive work to verify information that was available from different sources.

The money that went out of VBS to Brian Shivambu’s company Sgameka Projects, went to the company in various ways, and the Mudau Report found that all of them are problematic, she explains. Brian is EFF deputy president Floyd Shivambu's younger brother.

Also read: Journalist connects dots between Grand Azania, Shivambu brothers and VBS saga

She adds that there is no evidence to prove that Sgameka is a legit company, it is simply there to channel money.

I tried to prove Brian Shivambu right because he told us that Sgameka was a consulting firm specialising in mining and insurance. I could find no trace of that. If you receive R16m in a couple of months, you have a large team that is highly educated, and there is no trace of that. There is no trace of rent or tax paid.

Pauli van Wyk, Investigative journalist - Daily Maverick

Watch below the interview between Malema and McKaiser in which Van Wyk says the EFF leader lied:

Read the full article written by Van Wyk here:

Listen below to the full interview between McKaiser and Van Wyk:


28 May 2019 12:08 PM
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EFF Julius Malema
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