Naledi Pandor on SA's international human rights policy, ICC and Zindzi Mandela

Minister of International Relations & Cooperation Dr Naledi Pandor chats to Bongani Bingwa about her new portfolio and reactions to President Cyril Ramaphosa's State of the Nation Address on Thursday evening.

South Africa has maintained its attention to the values of human rights, the promotion of democracy and seeing peace in the world.

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

She says South Africa has worked with the Democratic Republic of Congo, South Sudan and the Middle East.

I don't believe we have departed from the core values announced by president Mandela.

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

Bingwa lists many countries where he says it has been argued South Africa has remained silent such as Cuba, China, Myanmar, and Belarus, but Pandor maintains her position that South Africa is taking steps to advocate for democracy.

South Africa is still a member of the International Criminal Court (ICC) but Pandor says there are issues to be discussed in Parliament.

The decision has been that we do not believe the ICC is even-handed in its approach to international human rights abuses.

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

She says South Africa wishes to establish instruments in Africa that will take up issues.

We would follow the constitutional processes to exit that body (ICC).

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

Ramaphosa mentioned Pandor as instrumental in developing his concept of the 'smart city' outlined in his Sona.

She says she is surprised that the president mentioned her name in this regard.

We need to take advantage of the technology that has been developed over the past few decades and it needs to be digital and new.

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

Pandor comments on her discussions with Zindzi Mandela after the ambassador to Denmark tweeted some controversial remarks. Pandor says Mandela explained she had been under 'extreme provocation and degradation' regarding comments about her mother.

I informed her that she is a diplomat and I expect diplomatic conduct from her and that she should adhere to the social policy guiding how public servants should utilise social media. We agreed that she must constrain herself.

Dr Naledi Pandor, Minister of International Relations & Cooperation

She says, however, Mandela's comments on the land issue were not out of order, but taking issue with people at a personal level on social media is a line that should not be crossed.

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