Former President Jacob Zuma will continue his testimony at the state capture commission of inquiry in Parktown on Tuesday.
During his first appearance at the commission, Zuma alleged that former Department of Mineral Resources Dr Ngoako Ramatlhodi was a spy for the apartheid government.
He also told the commission that former South African National Defence Force (SANDF) chief General Siphiwe Nyanda took instruction from the apartheid police.
Africa Melane speaks to ANC stalwart Sydney Mufamadi on what he knows of the men said to have been working for the apartheid government.
What I do know that is common to Nyanda and Ramatlhodi is that they are members of the ANC in good standing and were not impressed by the lack of capacity by Jacob Zuma as head of state of South Africa.— Dr Sydney Mufamadi, ANC Stalwart
Dr Mufamadi says President Mandela requested for names of 'spies' but he did not receive them.
When we got into government in 1994, president Mandela spoke to leaders of the statuary organisations asking for information on people who might have worked for the other side because he needed to liberate such people if they existed from the obligation to continue to avail themselves to be used by the other side.— Dr Sydney Mufamadi, ANC Stalwart
President Mandela did not get the corporation he needed so if president Zuma had that information he ought to have given to president Mandela rather than to create a situation where president Mandela could not get the information.— Dr Sydney Mufamadi, ANC Stalwart
He says Zuma should have come forward with the names back in 1994.
If this information only comes about when his personal fortune is at stake then you can see that what we are dealing with its somebody who is just about himself which would explain why even when he talks about himself he would you would think he is talking about somebody self.— Dr Sydney Mufamadi, ANC Stalwart
I think he's got an exaggerated sense of self-importance and this is why he is really performing in such an astounding way before a commission which is has been establishing to find out what went wrong during his time.— Dr Sydney Mufamadi, ANC Stalwart
Listen to what Dr Mufamadi says the ANC must do in response to the statement by Zuma: