Rugby has history of exclusion, but is now about reconcilation and hope - Jansen

Stellenbosch University Department of education policy studies professor Jonathan Jansen has written an article on how rugby is situated in South Africa's unresolved racial conflict.

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He joins Bongani Bingwa to discuss his article.

Racism and rugby are joined at the hip for over a century. Rugby was always a sport for white people, a sport for white men and always dominated by white Afrikaaners. So it has a particular history of exclusion.

Jonathan Jansen, Department of education policy studies professor - Stellenbosch University

He says, however, the beauty of rugby is that it lends itself both to division but also reconciliation.

This is what South Africans recognised when we first won the world cup in 1995. I also think that this is what the team recognised today, it's not about beating England, it is about giving the country hope, and they did that on Saturday.

Jonathan Jansen, Department of education policy studies professor - Stellenbosch University

He says the country's problems are not going to go away because the Springboks won the world cup.

However, what the rugby does, is to remind us of what we can be. It is an inspirational kind of thing. We have a team that reminds us of what we can be if we face these issues.

Jonathan Jansen, Department of education policy studies professor - Stellenbosch University

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